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Those JDM mats are quite nice. Very cool to know they match the seat pattern on the cloth seats--subtle elegant touch.

That's so cool that some of the JDM models got an automatic cruise control. Any other info on it? That would be another cool swap over into a USDM model.

I didn't think there was a carpet for the hump. :( Ours doesn't have one. :( (from what I remember now--we put the originals in the all weather one box and haven't taken the all-weather ones out since).
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SamirD wrote: That's so cool that some of the JDM models got an automatic cruise control. Any other info on it? That would be another cool swap over into a USDM model.
The only detailed info I've ever seen on it was in a Japanese Kizashi brochure I picked up at a Suzuki dealer in Japan. It's certainly not going to be compatible with a USDM model. You'd have to change out so much including the front grill, harnesses and wires, cruise control computers, to even the display. Even simpler things like the factory HIDs and rear fog lights offered in other markets would prove very difficult to integrate into a USDM Kizashi.
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KuroNekko wrote:
SamirD wrote: That's so cool that some of the JDM models got an automatic cruise control. Any other info on it? That would be another cool swap over into a USDM model.
The only detailed info I've ever seen on it was in a Japanese Kizashi brochure I picked up at a Suzuki dealer in Japan. It's certainly not going to be compatible with a USDM model. You'd have to change out so much including the front grill, harnesses and wires, cruise control computers, to even the display. Even simpler things like the factory HIDs and rear fog lights offered in other markets would prove very difficult to integrate into a USDM Kizashi.
I didn't think about the ecus being different for the cruise control. That would definitely make it tough to say the least.

I'm curious though as to why you say factory HIDs would be tough to integrate on a usdm model? The south american kizashis (as well as other lhd markets) had factory hids and there is a pigtail wiring harness that seems like it might accommodate the factory hid pretty easily. I haven't had a chance to fully investigate it, but I suspect the wiring is behind the switch cover as well. The only thing that might mess all that up is if the harness for the front parking sensors is integrated with the hid one. Then there may be some signals that will confuse the ecu.
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SamirD wrote:
I'm curious though as to why you say factory HIDs would be tough to integrate on a usdm model? The south american kizashis (as well as other lhd markets) had factory hids and there is a pigtail wiring harness that seems like it might accommodate the factory hid pretty easily. I haven't had a chance to fully investigate it, but I suspect the wiring is behind the switch cover as well. The only thing that might mess all that up is if the harness for the front parking sensors is integrated with the hid one. Then there may be some signals that will confuse the ecu.
It's because I don't assume the wiring exists for models that don't have the features. While I'm not 100% sure for the HIDs, I am about the much cheaper and simpler rear fog lights. Not only is it a blank in our cars where the rear fog bulbs go, there is no harness or even wiring to accommodate it. Basically, it's not a matter of just adding a bulb apparatus and a switch. You'd have to put in the entire wiring.
Also, while I'm no automotive manufacturing expert, it makes no sense for a company to put more parts into a car that can't use them. Basically, it would cost Suzuki more money to manufacture a more complex wiring harness for a car that won't be using the extra features. I really think the wiring harness is different for the cars with HIDs, front parking sensors, headlight washers, etc. It also goes to help explain why many upscale features are bundled together. It makes sense from a wiring harness standpoint assuming they use different wiring components vs the other models without the features.

Factory HIDs are much more complex than they would seem. For one, I'm thinking the ballasts would be mounted outside the headlight much like most OEMs do. Not only that, the Kizashi's factory HIDs come with headlight washers in many markets so you'd need to either remove those or get a new front bumper to accommodate them. Factory HIDs also have auto-leveling and controls for that, so there's more control wiring than just the standard headlight switch wires.
Basically, it's not impossible but it would require way more work than its worth to put these features into a USDM model that likely doesn't have the proper wiring to accommodate these features. Plus, I find swapping in factory HIDs pointless when aftermarket "plug 'n play" kits work very well with the Kizashi's low beam projector lenses. If one was crazy about the best output, even retrofitting real HID projectors would be a lot cheaper and easier than putting in a factory HID system from another Kizashi.
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KuroNekko wrote:It's because I don't assume the wiring exists for models that don't have the features. While I'm not 100% sure for the HIDs, I am about the much cheaper and simpler rear fog lights. Not only is it a blank in our cars where the rear fog bulbs go, there is no harness or even wiring to accommodate it. Basically, it's not a matter of just adding a bulb apparatus and a switch. You'd have to put in the entire wiring.
Also, while I'm no automotive manufacturing expert, it makes no sense for a company to put more parts into a car that can't use them. Basically, it would cost Suzuki more money to manufacture a more complex wiring harness for a car that won't be using the extra features. I really think the wiring harness is different for the cars with HIDs, front parking sensors, headlight washers, etc. It also goes to help explain why many upscale features are bundled together. It makes sense from a wiring harness standpoint assuming they use different wiring components vs the other models without the features.

Factory HIDs are much more complex than they would seem. For one, I'm thinking the ballasts would be mounted outside the headlight much like most OEMs do. Not only that, the Kizashi's factory HIDs come with headlight washers in many markets so you'd need to either remove those or get a new front bumper to accommodate them. Factory HIDs also have auto-leveling and controls for that, so there's more control wiring than just the standard headlight switch wires.
Basically, it's not impossible but it would require way more work than its worth to put these features into a USDM model that likely doesn't have the proper wiring to accommodate these features. Plus, I find swapping in factory HIDs pointless when aftermarket "plug 'n play" kits work very well with the Kizashi's low beam projector lenses. If one was crazy about the best output, even retrofitting real HID projectors would be a lot cheaper and easier than putting in a factory HID system from another Kizashi.
My father was an automotive engineer back in the 1970s, so I can concur that most manufacturers will have different harnesses and wiring on each car based on the options. However, I somehow recall someone on here running into a situation where they added factory fog lights and found the wiring for the switch behind the blank as well as the complete harness already in place. After seeing the bumper off on the numerous threads here, there is actually a subharness for the usdm halogens and fogs, which makes me conclude that the same main harness was used on all kizashis and that only the subharness changed. Since the hids were standard in almost every market, I think the hid harness may be more prevalent outside the US.

But you are right about there being a lot of possible challenges. As sensitive as our cars are to changes in voltage, who knows what type of havoc the factory hid system from another market might induce? And the washer nozzles definitely present another challenge, not to mention the front parking sensors that may be present.

Still, with all of those challenges, I think a factory hid retrofit would be quite possible and would definitely the most 'stock' headlight upgrade ever.
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Good point about the fog light harness for non-fog light equipped models, but I think there's an explanation for that. It's because the fog lights were sold as options and even OE accessories for the Kizashi in North America. So if you got a S or SE that didn't come with fog lights, you could buy them as OE accessories and install them, connecting them to the existing harness and wiring and adding the dash switch. However, with HIDs, I think it's a different issue because no Kizashi was offered with them in North America and they were never an OE option or accessory here.

However, you may be right that it's possibly an option for other markets. In fact, when I flipped through my JDM Kizashi accessories brochure, it featured HIDs as a Suzuki OE accessory. This would support the notion that the JDM models without factory HIDs would have the wiring necessary to install HIDs if desired as an accessory.
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I'm not a fan of carpet. I have two boys and live in the country. So mud and dirty is a constant battle! I have the weather tech floor mats & I absolutely LOVE them! Esp in the winter time with the snow! If you plan to keep your Kizashi for a long time, def worth the investment!
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amanda.wyant wrote:I'm not a fan of carpet. I have two boys and live in the country. So mud and dirty is a constant battle! I have the weather tech floor mats & I absolutely LOVE them! Esp in the winter time with the snow! If you plan to keep your Kizashi for a long time, def worth the investment!
When I lived on a mountain, I put in all weather floor mats (in a different car). They are certainly a lot better for dirt, mud, and especially snow. Snow tends to melt on carpet and then the water can mildew. However, I now don't deal with too much dirt or snow and my pre-owned Kizashi came with the accessory floor mats and trunk mat which are quite nice.
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I found a brand-spankin' new set of factory floor mats on eBay awhile back for $50. They are standing by for whenever I need them.
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Looks like the same that was delivered with my 2012 Kizashi in Norway


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