Noisy, thrashing engine is getting old.

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11zukizashi
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bootymac wrote:
11zukizashi wrote:Hi can someone who has an oem filter please measure the thickness of the rubber flange around the edge of the filter? I checked the airbox again last night and it is definitely closed but it seems like its not closed tight, like the rubber flange gasket is not thick enough and causing the cover of the airbox to have some movement and rattle.
Measured my OEM filter and the gasket was 10mm thick
Was it 10.0? I finally had a chance to get some vernier calipers on mine and without squeezing the gasket at all mine is 9.25mm. That would explain the noise I am getting... Can you confirm that the oem is supposed to be 10.0? I will complain to amazon. In the meantime I will try to mickey mouse a shim to take up the gap...
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KuroNekko
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I bought the Wix filter on RockAuto and it's great. However, it was not cheap. It was like $30. I'm willing to go cheap on the cabin filter, but not the engine's.
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11zukizashi
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This was definitely what was causing my problem. I just applied a strip of 3m tape on the bottom side of the flange under the gasket and put the gasket over it and the vibration and noise is completely gone. The filter went back into the airbox nice and snug but it closed very nicely without any extra effort.
I work in automotive manufacturing and this dimensional mismatch is unacceptable. On a feature like this flange, the tolerance for the thickness should be a few hundredths of a millimeter. I have driven about 3000 miles on this filter, I hope unfiltered air hasn't been leaking through the gap.
This is the filter I have
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11zukizashi wrote:This was definitely what was causing my problem. I just applied a strip of 3m tape on the bottom side of the flange under the gasket and put the gasket over it and the vibration and noise is completely gone. The filter went back into the airbox nice and snug but it closed very nicely without any extra effort.
I work in automotive manufacturing and this dimensional mismatch is unacceptable. On a feature like this flange, the tolerance for the thickness should be a few hundredths of a millimeter. I have driven about 3000 miles on this filter, I hope unfiltered air hasn't been leaking through the gap.
This is the filter I have
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bootymac
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Yup, it was exactly 10mm but it seems like you've figured it out. That's quite the variance
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I had a similar issue with my XL-7. An aftermarket air filter that the gasket wasn't the right size - I could see where dust had been leaking through on the inside of the air filter box.

It wasn't a cheap aftermarket filter either. From now on I'm sticking with OEM as we don't get the huge selection of aftermarket quality brands here.

PS: I later bought an aftermarket cabin filter for it off Amazon - that was too big and had to be modified to fit :facepalm:
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11zukizashi
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For pennies on the dollar and 10 minutes of work with a pair of scissors and a roll of 3m tape I don't mind using an improper filter, I just wish I caught it sooner.
How long did you run the filter on the xl7? did you have any issues with your cylinders or valves or maf sensor?
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The XL-7 filter was like it for a long time - like years / 20000km + probably. No problems with it. I don't think it was as extreme as your example, I only discovered it from trails of dust going up the inside of the air filter box lid when I checked how dirty it was. Then I checked the air filter gasket and noticed it wasn't a good fit.

It's like $56 odd for a genuine air filter here, and around half that price for a supposedly quality aftermarket filter (that leaks....) Given the long life span of the air filter, I don't mind paying the extra for OEM - knowing I won't have abrasive dust going through my engine. :(
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11zukizashi
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Last time i spoke with my dealer the air filter was something like 160 bucks
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11zukizashi wrote:Last time i spoke with my dealer the air filter was something like 160 bucks
Not even Mercedes-Benz charges that much for an air filter.
An OEM air filter itself should cost around $30.
In fact suzukicarparts.com sells the OEM filter for $23.35.
http://suzukicarparts.com/parts/2011/Su ... R%20FILTER
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