Spark plugs for the Kizashi

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KuroNekko wrote:Keep in mind that a XL-7 is really more a GM product than a real Suzuki. It's a GM frame and if you have a V6, it's a GM-sourced engine. I would not at all be surprised to see the Kizashi use a different coil pack from that in a V6 XL-7. Maybe even a different supplier.
Negative. That's only the case with the ~2006+ XL7.

I'm talking about the H25A and H27A (2.5l V6 and 2.7l V6) engines - both developed and built by Suzuki. I believe the J20A (2.0l 4cyl) also suffers the same problem.

PS: I've already posted pics of the Kizashi coil pack and mentioned it is a different design, but the same risk of damage will be there. If it's not broken, don't play with it! ;)
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This is the conclusion to this post. I bought a set of Bosch Double Platinum spark plugs and install them. A few weeks ago I notice when I'm accelerating about 0-60 mph the car was stuttering when pressing the gas pedal (intermittently), as if its struggling. If I'm at a steady 40-50 mph it would do the same. I've checked the my oil, antifreeze(coolant), and transmission fluid and they're all looking good so far, and also did an oil change, and the problem still persist. I took the car to the dealership and they inspect the car and said that everything is OK, but the spark plugs may be the problem. He took out a spark plug and showed me that the tip of it was discolored. He check the spec on the car just to find out that the spark plug which was in is a Bosch Double Platinum(which I installed) is the wrong type. He recommend NGK Iridium IX which is design for the car. I call a friend of mine who works at a Honda dealership, and also at the auto parts store and they said that these newer cars have to get the recommended parts for it to work efficiently( better fuel economy, and longer life to the engine). The mechanic at the dealership was charging $150 for parts and labor for 1 hour, so I took the car home, bought the spark plugs and 2 lubes for it for $39.94 and installed them myself. Now the car is running smoother and I notice the gas mileage it better. I hope someone get something out of this.
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amarlondis wrote:This is the conclusion to this post. I bought a set of Bosch Double Platinum spark plugs and install them. A few weeks ago I notice when I'm accelerating about 0-60 mph the car was stuttering when pressing the gas pedal (intermittently), as if its struggling. If I'm at a steady 40-50 mph it would do the same. I've checked the my oil, antifreeze(coolant), and transmission fluid and they're all looking good so far, and also did an oil change, and the problem still persist. I took the car to the dealership and they inspect the car and said that everything is OK, but the spark plugs may be the problem. He took out a spark plug and showed me that the tip of it was discolored. He check the spec on the car just to find out that the spark plug which was in is a Bosch Double Platinum(which I installed) is the wrong type. He recommend NGK Iridium IX which is design for the car. I call a friend of mine who works at a Honda dealership, and also at the auto parts store and they said that these newer cars have to get the recommended parts for it to work efficiently( better fuel economy, and longer life to the engine). The mechanic at the dealership was charging $150 for parts and labor for 1 hour, so I took the car home, bought the spark plugs and 2 lubes for it for $39.94 and installed them myself. Now the car is running smoother and I notice the gas mileage it better. I hope someone get something out of this.
This isn't very scientific, but I prefer to put German plugs in German cars, Japanese plugs in Japanese cars, and American plugs in American cars. The main reason is that they are the easiest to match in terms of being specified for the car given the respective OEM support.
I always use Japanese plugs like NGK in my Japanese cars and never had a problem.
In my VW, I recently put in Bosch Platinum plugs because they were on sale and were specified for the car. They fixed a misfire the VW was having and it runs good now.

I've heard that the Bosch plugs with multiple ground/side electrodes can cause issues in some cars.

I'd say that the NGK Iridium IX's are great plugs. I've used them in most of my previous Japanese cars with good results though they won't last as long as higher quality iridiums like NGK's Laser Iridium or equivalents from Denso. These are intended as OEM plugs with a lifespan of around 100,000 miles.

I'm curious as to why you changed your plugs unless your mileage was close to 100,000 miles. The OEM plugs are iridiums with a lifespan of around 100,000 miles.
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Okay, given this is a technical thread (not off topic or general chit chat), I've deleted the original trolling comment and cleaned out the following posts that referred to that comment.

Please ignore anyone "fishing". ;)

To the person doing the fishing- a permanent ban is on the cards. :x There won't be any warnings this time around. (I've already cleaned up at least two other inappropriate posts in the last couple of days.)
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amarlondis wrote:I bought a set of Bosch Double Platinum spark plugs and install them.
After reading this much, I knew exactly where this post was going, I hear it all the time.
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murcod wrote:Okay, given this is a technical thread (not off topic or general chit chat), I've deleted the original trolling comment and cleaned out the following posts that referred to that comment.

Please ignore anyone "fishing". ;)

To the person doing the fishing- a permanent ban is on the cards. :x There won't be any warnings this time around. (I've already cleaned up at least two other inappropriate posts in the last couple of days.)
If it were me, I would have such people executed under the laws of inappropriate use of humor. If the execution didn't work, I would consider further measures, such as a life time ban from the Kizi club.

Come on mate, get a life !!
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What do you guys think of Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs compared to NKG's or Denso? A store I was in had their Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs at half price ($3 each) so I grabbed them. Should I keep them or get others?
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redmed wrote:What do you guys think of Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs compared to NKG's or Denso? A store I was in had their Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs at half price ($3 each) so I grabbed them. Should I keep them or get others?
Use them. I don't think they are as high quality as the NGK Iridium IX or the even better Laser Iridium and equivalent from Denso, but that's mainly because of the price.
I've actually used those Autolites XP Iridiums before. I installed them in a Mercury Milan (Ford Fusion clone) that belonged to a friend. The car runs great.
If your Kizashi is up there in mileage and it's time to change the plugs, why not try them since you got them? Check Autolite's website to see what the lifespan of these plugs are to get a sense of how long they should last.
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KuroNekko wrote:
redmed wrote:What do you guys think of Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs compared to NKG's or Denso? A store I was in had their Autolite XP Iridium spark plugs at half price ($3 each) so I grabbed them. Should I keep them or get others?
Use them. I don't think they are as high quality as the NGK Iridium IX or the even better Laser Iridium and equivalent from Denso, but that's mainly because of the price.
I've actually used those Autolites XP Iridiums before. I installed them in a Mercury Milan (Ford Fusion clone) that belonged to a friend. The car runs great.
If your Kizashi is up there in mileage and it's time to change the plugs, why not try them since you got them? Check Autolite's website to see what the lifespan of these plugs are to get a sense of how long they should last.
I just checked their website and could not find a mileage claim but they guarantee them for 7 years. Figuring 15,000 miles a year, 7 years puts them just over 100,000 miles.

Thanks for sending me to Autolite's site. While there I found that Autolite has a $2.50 per plug rebate on their Iridiums. That brings the cost of these Iridium plugs down to .50 cents! I'm going to another store tomorrow to get some Iridium XP's for my other cars.

I had read on another forum that using American made spark plugs on a Japanese car can cause ignition coils to fail. Don't believe that, electric resistance to cause a spark is not variable except by changing the plug gap or wire resistance. But you also said you like to put "Japanese plugs in Japanese cars" so putting American plugs in my Japanese Kizashi gave a reason to pause and ask.
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