Kentroyals5 wrote:Very strange. I got my car to start this morning...moved it out of my garage and while running opener driver door and closed it (while running) and opened passenger door to turn off the car. Hence driver door didn't open after car was turned off. The wheel lock still engaged and it wont start now. What in the world?
If you had the battery disconnected the car defaults to right hand drive momentarily I’ve noticed this when you open the drivers door the right side shows on the display. . I think you’ll have to open the drivers door again and cycle through that and as soon as you get it to start with the door open disconnect your drivers door switch. I don’t have any idea how long that will last and you’ll never be able to trust it, but hooking up a simple switch would not be very hard for someone to do.
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Huh, I didn't have the battery disconnected. Is there any other trigger for the wheel lock other than the driver side door opening after turning it off? That's where I'm worried if the wheel lock engages when it isn't even triggered, if I unplug it once I get it started might it still lock and I'm screwed at that point?
Here again. Anyone who had this issue remove the door sensor for the wheel lock on drivers side? My concern here is I again had the wheel lock engage even though my car was turned off and driver door was not opened after that. Is there any other triggers known for wheel lock beyond driver door getting opened after car is turned off?
My concern is the wheel lock has engaged numerous times without the driver door being opened. So if i unplug the driver side sensor, I'm worried if the wheel lock somehow engages for another reason that I wouldn't be able to start my car without that plugged back in.
I'm no expert on the matter but I think the flaw in your logic is that you're treating the driver door sensor as a dedicated sensor for the steering lock. It's a sensor to serve a few purposes but mainly for the cabin lights to turn on. The steering lock happens to be wired to the input of the door sensor thus engages when the door is opened following the engine being turned off. Now, given this reality, it might just be that the steering lock engages upon any door opening, especially the front passenger door. Consider that door would be the driver door on a RHD model. I'm just guessing here but it would explain your experience.
I think the best approach to temporarily disable the lock is to disable the driver door sensor upon a steering lock disengage so it doesn't engage the lock upon the door opening again as Old Tech explained.
KuroNekko wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:20 am
I'm no expert on the matter but I think the flaw in your logic is that you're treating the driver door sensor as a dedicated sensor for the steering lock. It's a sensor to serve a few purposes but mainly for the cabin lights to turn on. The steering lock happens to be wired to the input of the door sensor thus engages when the door is opened following the engine being turned off. Now, given this reality, it might just be that the steering lock engages upon any door opening, especially the front passenger door. Consider that door would be the driver door on a RHD model. I'm just guessing here but it would explain your experience.
I think the best approach to temporarily disable the lock is to disable the driver door sensor upon a steering lock disengage so it doesn't engage the lock upon the door opening again as Old Tech explained.
The only time I hear the wheel lock engagement is when I have the drivers side door open...but maybe other doors can trigger the door lock? Could I sneak out of the trunk (half kidding)
So if anyone knows if all doors trigger wheel lock, I have to replace 4 to ensure I fix the correct one? (since driver door hasn't been opened in many scenarios and I still am unable to start my car for various period of times.
The only door switch to trigger the steering lock is the driver door. If you want the proper fix buy a newly electronic steering lock box. If you just want to be able to use the car, and trust it, just adding a momentary switch to activate the starter relay will do the trick. This could be done by anybody that could read a wiring diagram.
Also appears that warmer days (car in driveway instead of in garage) cause the wheel lock to engage. driver door hadn't been open in a week, so that door sensor didn't engage the wheel lock. Strange.
Kentroyals5 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:29 pm
Also appears that warmer days (car in driveway instead of in garage) cause the wheel lock to engage. driver door hadn't been open in a week, so that door sensor didn't engage the wheel lock. Strange.
I can relate that warmer temps seem to make the steering lock operate differently. I live in a warm climate and believe it's a main factor in why my steering lock isn't as problematic. However, it's pure speculation, much like the following I'm about to write:
Given your experiences, I starting to think perhaps the steering lock also engages automatically after some time, regardless of door sensor input. Perhaps like when the radio or interior lights automatically turn off after being on for a while when the engine is turned off. It's apparent that after some time, the vehicle is programmed to enact certain operations and perhaps the steering wheel lock is one of them. Just an idea.
It sounds like you've tried quite a few things already, and it must be frustrating dealing with the steering lock issue. If disconnecting the door switch didn't prevent the wheel lock, it might mean the problem is deeper within the car's electronic steering lock system.
As others suggested, replacing the wheel lock module (part number 37100-57L12-000) would be the permanent fix, but if you’re not ready for that yet, the workaround with a momentary push button might be your next best bet. It seems complicated, but a mechanic or an electronics-savvy friend could help you set it up. Also, be cautious with bypass methods like jumping the starter relay unless you’re confident in what you're doing, as that can be risky. Good luck, and hopefully, you can find a solution that gets your Kizashi back on the road reliably!
I’ve been having an issue with my 2010 Suzuki Kizashi for the last six months. The car often won’t start, and the steering wheel locks up. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it going, but other times I have to wait hours or even come back the next day to try again.
I’ve come across this issue before and thought I found a workaround—getting out of the car while it’s still running, closing the driver’s door, walking around to the passenger side, and then turning the car off from there. The idea was that I could start the car from the passenger side when I wanted to leave.
Unfortunately, that workaround doesn’t seem reliable, as the wheel still locks, even when I avoid opening the driver’s door after turning the car off. I’ve read about disconnecting the door switch in the driver’s door to prevent the wheel lock, but I’m not sure if that would work since the wheel locks up even without opening the driver’s side door.
Has anyone found a temporary fix or workaround for this problem? Any advice would be appreciated!
saadkaleem123 wrote:I’ve been having an issue with my 2010 Suzuki Kizashi for the last six months. The car often won’t start, and the steering wheel locks up. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it going, but other times I have to wait hours or even come back the next day to try again.
I’ve come across this issue before and thought I found a workaround—getting out of the car while it’s still running, closing the driver’s door, walking around to the passenger side, and then turning the car off from there. The idea was that I could start the car from the passenger side when I wanted to leave.
Unfortunately, that workaround doesn’t seem reliable, as the wheel still locks, even when I avoid opening the driver’s door after turning the car off. I’ve read about disconnecting the door switch in the driver’s door to prevent the wheel lock, but I’m not sure if that would work since the wheel locks up even without opening the driver’s side door.
Has anyone found a temporary fix or workaround for this problem? Any advice would be appreciated!
Obviously, the correct fix is to purchase a new steering lock assembly and install it but you will have well over US$500 parts and labor in doing this. Disconnecting the drivers door switch does temporary work by keeping the steering block mechanism from disengaging the start circuit. I have never seen a steering lock, engage without a signal from the drivers door opening but I guess it could happen. A sure fire fix for this particular problem is an override starter engagement by wiring in a momentary push button switch. I hide this in the coin box left of the steering wheel. Directly behind that box, you can find the keyless start computer and wire into the brake light signal and the signal for the starter relay.
