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I took my Suzuki to my friend's service center. They relearned the TP sensors. However, the result was the same in that the blinking light (!) in the speedometer reappeared within minutes of driving.
I did have a twenty minute period of time where the light did go off. It even stayed off after I parked the car (and turned it off) for a few hours and then started another trip. However, it reappeared about 10 minutes into my second trip.
My next steps will be to order a new TP sensor online and have the original service center replace the one they installed with the one I bought online.
Have we come to a consensus as to which sensors can be ordered online and work with a high degree of certainty. I remember seeing the Schraeder and Chrysler brands as being the way to go. Can somebody send me specific model number details on the "good" TP Sensors? An Amazon (or other store) link would be great.
A few notes:
I would probably continue to drive with the blinking light if it were not for the fact that the wheel that the problem sensor is connected is the wheel that slowly leaks air (more so in frigid temperatures). So I do need a good sensor on that wheel just in case.
To get the Suzuki into relearn mode, I followed the instructions available in this thread. But I will add one additional note. Between each of the steps, when the cabin light switch is not depressed, do not pause at all. So when you hold the button, then let it go, immediately press the button again for the following step.
Super-strange.
So here's what I would do--obtain a single genuine suzuki sensor to replace the one that you suspect is causing the issue. Don't mount it. And then relearn the sensors, except learn this one vs the one on the car. The lights should go off. Go for a drive keeping the sensor in the glove compartment. You should get an tire pressure warning message (because the one in the glove compartment will report a pressure of zero). Continue testing for a few days to confirm 'tpms service' doesn't come back on. Then you can swap the other sensor for the genuine suzuki one--and you don't even have to do a relearn.
Honestly, just take it to Discount Tire and get 4 new TPMS sensors, it's like $200 aftermarket installed for all 4. Mine have worked great ever since I did that, no issues except on really cold mornings/nights. Once the air in the tire warms up the sensors turn off. It's ridiculous to waste so much time trying to fix yourself unless you like to work on cars. Discount tire will reset them for you for free as well and if one gives you problems they will replace. I think I had 3 different manufacturers TPMS sensors in my tires when I first bought the vehicle, and nothing worked properly until I got 4 new ones. No issues since...
That would be a way to trouble shoot which sensor is giving you trouble. Just program the new sensor in place of each sensor to find which one is giving you grief. That is a argument for getting a trigger device but then again if a battery is going on one sensor it would probably be best to replace all the sensors. The other sensors batteries are probably going to go soon anyway.
peezi wrote:Honestly, just take it to Discount Tire and get 4 new TPMS sensors, it's like $200 aftermarket installed for all 4. Mine have worked great ever since I did that, no issues except on really cold mornings/nights. Once the air in the tire warms up the sensors turn off. It's ridiculous to waste so much time trying to fix yourself unless you like to work on cars. Discount tire will reset them for you for free as well and if one gives you problems they will replace. I think I had 3 different manufacturers TPMS sensors in my tires when I first bought the vehicle, and nothing worked properly until I got 4 new ones. No issues since...
$200 is not exactly cheap when a $25 part and a few minutes of your time to reprogram the sensors will do a better job than what 99% of shops will do with the Kizashi tpms system.
Obviously your experience has been good, but there's a lot of people in this thread that have had more than one tpms nightmare caused by shops like that.
Success! Took several tries, but finally got into relearn mode on my AWD 2011. I had the RED "Service TPMS..." not just the warning light. Think for many tries I was just waiting a bit too long between presses. When it finally worked I took less than 1/2 sec between a release & the next press. This was also a Discount Tire Failure, as they had my car for about an hour attempting to get it into learn mode with no success. I might add that the 4 snow tires & Rims that I took off never were able to sync correctly for more than a couple days & I just spent the winter watching the light blink. I thought it was solved when I swapped back the Summer tires & rims and left discount with no TPMS light blinking. Well that didn't last more than a few days either & they couldn't fix it. At least they were able to let me know that the sensors were responding to their meter... no charge, so I knew I wasn't fighting a bad one or dead battery. We'll see how long it lasts, it was rock solid before the snow tires.
2011 Sport SLS Navi AWD, White Water Pearl ...in Beautiful Colorado
What people said about tire store reset procedure that come back after 15 miles is absolutely spot on. I have to get discount tire to do it the second one to have permanent fix. This is the most annoying thing from a few weeks of my kizashi ownership.
Since putting on my summer tires with my new sensors, I've had to do the re-learn 5 times already. It seems like it only lasts until my first trip on the highway, whether that's the next day or 5 days after the re-learn. I used the Chrysler sensors that are supposed to be compatible, and I'm thinking the car must recognize them since the re-learn works every time, I'm just wondering why it keeps unlearning them.
I'm pretty sure it's not an issue with the pressures building up too much at highway speeds since the service TPMS stays on all the time once it comes on the first time, and I'm only filling the tires up to 38psi so it shouldn't be building up to above 50.
New Rear shocks...CHECK, New wheels and tires...CHECK....Service TPMS light on....CHECK...my mechanic was able to get them to turn off but after about 15 miles of driving, back on. I then took it to a local MAvis Discount Tire shop, where the guy did not even seem to know what he was doing, and I ended up leaving becuase I was going to be late for work. My question is, if the shop is using the correct tpms scan tool and following that "syncing/relearn" steps, then it should work, right? This TPMS thing is really annoying.
2012 Kizashi CVT AWD/ w paint chips
Orange County/Brooklyn NY
I gave up on mine because the relearn would only stay until my first highway trip every time. The shops wanted to charge over $100 just to touch it. I'll deal with the orange screen for that price. Hopefully once I put the winter tires back on with the stock sensors I won't have the same problem.
That's very interesting that you guys are having the light turn back on. On the last two tire changes, I've had to relearn them a few times for them to 'stick'. I just relearned it the other night and it's back on again. I thought it was just me until I read about how the tire places with correct tools are also having the same problem.
So here's a theory--all the factory sensors out there were made between 2010-2013, which makes them anywhere between 3-6 years old now. My vt30 does display the sensor battery level, but the buttons on the panel aren't working, so I can't check a sensor. I wonder if the batteries are starting to go out?
As far as aftermarket sensors, I know all aftermarket stuff typically cuts corners, and I can definitely see a nice japanese battery being replaced for a cheap chinese or mexican one, so call those about 2-3yr battery life and it's the same boat.
Mental note for me--get vt30 repaired and check the battery level on our sensors. I actually have two sets of sensors, one in the summer set that were on the car, and one genuine Suzuki set from a Canadian forum member (no tpms in Canada).
