trying to find new ways to improve mpg!!!

[tvrooman1]

thank you for showing me that I'm going to get that instead of the other products i was looking at, seems to be way more convenient and as you said it does all of if not more than the scan gauge that doesn't correspond with all the other apps that the Kiwi wifi does. i got my car in the middle of winter so with driving with AWD in the large amounts of snow that upstate NY gets had really messed with my mpg.

[bootymac]

Basically, slow down and smooth it out. I have my doubts that chips, intakes, etc. will actually give you significantly better fuel efficiency.

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If there was an easy way to improve your fuel efficiency, Suzuki would've already implemented it. You'll be pissing money away with all of those suggestions you have so far as they won't do anything to increase your fuel mileage.

Maintain your car and change your driving style (read: lay off the go pedal) if you want to optimal fuel efficiency. Otherwise, a more efficient car may be better for your commute.

[tvrooman1]

i have been driving at slower rates and just doing that my car is currently at 24.3 mpg compared to 22 its climbing slowly but surely...

[Ronzuki]

I ran my car super smooth the first 2+ years averaging around 28 mpg. Mostly rural driving, very little highway. I won't lie, it's rather annoying driving that way. As of late, I just drive the car, enjoying it for what it is, in a normal fashion and am seeing the 24-25 mpg numbers through winter and plus 1 maybe 2 in the warmer temps. The accelerator is your enemy from dead stops. Long, slow, progressive accelerations while keeping the rpms as far under 2k as possible, at all times, yields the best efficiency....but it sucks, is annoying and very boring. I too don't believe any of the 'usual upgrades' will yield any significant economy improvement, especially for the ROI you won't see. Kuro's advice list is the best for any car to yield the maximum potential fuel savings.

[bootymac]

Yeah, the most fuel is used when accelerating from a stop. Accelerating smoothly can really help improve your fuel economy.

I also tried an informal test comparing two styles of shifting: revving each gear up to 4000ish RPM before shifting versus upshifting early. The instant fuel economy indicated that upshifting early used less fuel.

Anyway, wouldn't have bought a Kizashi if I cared about fuel efficiency

[tvrooman1]

Only reason I bought it was it had awd and it was better than driving back and forth to college 100miles one way with a f350 that got 9-12mpg at best, just puts more money in my pocket at the end of each week! If I had my choice I would've bought a diesel truck and programmed it, exhaust, huge tires, huge lift kit and still can get the same mpg as this car but couldn't get a loan for 20k at 19

[KuroNekko]

Only reason I bought it was it had awd and it was better than driving back and forth to college 100miles one way with a f350 that got 9-12mpg at best, just puts more money in my pocket at the end of each week! If I had my choice I would've bought a diesel truck and programmed it, exhaust, huge tires, huge lift kit and still can get the same mpg as this car but couldn't get a loan for 20k at 19

I doubt a lifted diesel truck can better a Kizashi in highway fuel economy if driven the same way. If you want an excellent highway commuter car, get a diesel sedan like a VW Jetta TDI. They are more efficient on highways than hybrids, especially when mated to a manual transmission.

[tvrooman1]

I know for a fact that a diesel truck with a twin turbo 4" full exhuast on 35" with 6"lift and a programmer gets 28.63 mpg!! Idc you guys don't believe me but I've see it myself while rolling coal on people getting 23mpg at 65mph! All my friends have them and I've talked to a diesel specialist that told me I can get 35mpg with no problem

[KuroNekko]

I know for a fact that a diesel truck with a twin turbo 4" full exhuast on 35" with 6"lift and a programmer gets 28.63 mpg!! Idc you guys don't believe me but I've see it myself while rolling coal on people getting 23mpg at 65mph! All my friends have them and I've talked to a diesel specialist that told me I can get 35mpg with no problem

I have my doubts about 35 MPG. I know diesels can be very efficient, but you are talking about a full-size lifted truck with huge tires. Air resistance, roll resistance, weight, etc. are all factors that will go against getting such good fuel efficiency. I also bet these mods are gross polluters. Maybe you can care less about the environment, but you should know that diesel emissions carry known carcinogens in concentrations much higher than gasoline emissions.
The EPA measures pollutants in diesels in ways the Europeans don't and this is why the US has much stricter regulations on diesel vehicles than Europe.

Also, my dad drives a stock VW Jetta TDI (diesel) with an automatic and he gets around 43 MPG on the highway. I have a hard time believing a modded Ram or similar can get only 8 MPG worse. However, I'm no diesel truck expert.

That being said, think of it economically: You'd have to put in a lot of money to get your diesel rig that efficient meaning you are putting in money in mods to save money in fuel. It's logically flawed. You'd most likely have to drive it for years to recoup the monetary investment. It makes little sense to put in thousands of dollars to save money in fuel.

It's not much different from idiots who ditch their Corollas to get a Prius for the sake of saving money in gas. The Prius costs significantly more meaning that it would take several years of driving the Prius for it to actually save you money over a Corolla.
Americans are often fooled into bad car buying decisions because of MPG which is a poor measure of fuel efficiency. Other nations have the smarter system of Liters/100 KM instead of Miles per Gallon.
Here's an example to compare:
A 10 MPG truck to a 20 MPG truck.
A 35 MPG car to a 50 MPG car.
Many Americans will see the difference of 15 MPG improvement with the cars over the 10 MPG improvement with the trucks and say that going from 35 to 50 is better. Not really.
35 to 50 is only a 42.86% improvement. 10 to 20 is double, therefore a 100% improvement.
Basically, you would be saving more gas money by going from 10 to 20 than 35 to 50.
Now convert these MPG figures to Liters/100KM:
A 10 MPG car is 23.52 L/100KM.
A 20 MPG car is 11.76 L/100KM.
A 35 MPG car is 6.72 L/100KM.
A 50 MPG car is 4.7 L/100KM.
You see how this measure better shows you how 23.52 is double the amount of 11.76 while 6.72 vs. 4.7 is not as much of a difference?
These figures will better reflect the rate in which you'd save money from decreased fuel consumption.

Basically, don't fall into the trap of spending more money for a slightly more efficient vehicle. A full-size diesel truck is a horrible investment for fuel efficiency over just about any midsize car.
I'd only consider a diesel truck if I wanted to regularly tow things like a boat or a motor-home. Otherwise, they are not cost-efficient in getting good fuel economy.

Honestly, change your driving style. It will save you gas, therefore money, with no investment. Trust me, I can get 34 MPG on the highway in my Kizashi just by cruising around 65~70 MPH and it's pretty much stock.

[tvrooman1]

Idc at this point what people have to say about the diesel trucks i would take a fully loaded truck over a mid sized car I've grown up around them and send it done myself going from 12mpg to slightly under 30mpgs, I've driven them and seen it happen before my eyes! The programmers actually work for diesels because of how versatile the fuel is when ring pushed through the products I have listed... Only reason I was thinking of putting them in a car