Finally someone who knows what they are talking about!~tc~ wrote:Your experiment is confounded by having two entirely different types of tires. In your experiment, there is no way to determine if the lack of response is due to the section thickness or the soft compound and siping.
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It goes without saying really. Even in the same tyre size there are huge differences in performance between differing tyre brands and models. Let alone a 18" performance tyre vs a 16" snow tyre.
PS: Nothing makes me shake my head more than someone fitting huge expensive rims and then elcheapo tyres. It (usually) looks good though.
PS: Nothing makes me shake my head more than someone fitting huge expensive rims and then elcheapo tyres. It (usually) looks good though.

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Sure, there is a limited sponginess to the winter tire especially the Blizzaks. Although this is not a controlled experiment, I have plenty of experience with the difference between 16" Blizzaks and 16" various types of passenger tires. Based on that experience, I cannot think that the difference in the makeup of a snow tire anywhere near explains a difference in steering response between the 16" and 18" wheels.
YMMV, but I am reminded that others will have the same impression. For example, in Reading Tire Sidewall for Dummies, the author explains the turn in differences.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/r ... ewall.html
"• The sidewall height affects the turn-in feel (the responsiveness you feel at the steering wheel) and the ride quality.
• Lower aspect ratio (shorter sidewall) provides better turn-in response than a higher aspect ratio, but at the expense of less break-away warning and a more jarring ride — in extreme cases, even exposing the wheels to potential bending and breaking damage from potholes and other surface irregularities."
It's just intuitive.
YMMV, but I am reminded that others will have the same impression. For example, in Reading Tire Sidewall for Dummies, the author explains the turn in differences.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/r ... ewall.html
"• The sidewall height affects the turn-in feel (the responsiveness you feel at the steering wheel) and the ride quality.
• Lower aspect ratio (shorter sidewall) provides better turn-in response than a higher aspect ratio, but at the expense of less break-away warning and a more jarring ride — in extreme cases, even exposing the wheels to potential bending and breaking damage from potholes and other surface irregularities."
It's just intuitive.
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I've been wanting these for quite a while, 19" Speedywheels Fin RS. I just cant justify commiting a grand to wheels:( I don't know if theyre available outside aus?
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this does look good but keep in mind that they are only cheap knock offs of Volk Racing. The quality just isn't the same
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But you can still get high performance high aspect ratio tires that are as firm as a priest at a little league gamechazyouwin wrote:Sure, there is a limited sponginess to the winter tire especially the Blizzaks. Although this is not a controlled experiment, I have plenty of experience with the difference between 16" Blizzaks and 16" various types of passenger tires. Based on that experience, I cannot think that the difference in the makeup of a snow tire anywhere near explains a difference in steering response between the 16" and 18" wheels.
YMMV, but I am reminded that others will have the same impression. For example, in Reading Tire Sidewall for Dummies, the author explains the turn in differences.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/r ... ewall.html
"• The sidewall height affects the turn-in feel (the responsiveness you feel at the steering wheel) and the ride quality.
• Lower aspect ratio (shorter sidewall) provides better turn-in response than a higher aspect ratio, but at the expense of less break-away warning and a more jarring ride — in extreme cases, even exposing the wheels to potential bending and breaking damage from potholes and other surface irregularities."
It's just intuitive.
And you can also get high performance snow tires with decent aspect ratios.
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Yea I would probabky consider them more seriously if they were a better brand but they stare at me from a window over the road from work:( and happen to fit aswell.Northernstar wrote:this does look good but keep in mind that they are only cheap knock offs of Volk Racing. The quality just isn't the same
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nice rim!! but HOLY CRAP, they are freaking EXPENSIVE!! @_@