CVT Transmission starting to fail

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tejus wrote:and for the guy using my car as evidence for cvt reliability... I'm fully aware I broke my cvt being an idiot stuck in snow. I cannot slam the reliability of the cvt it was undoubtedly my fault
Actually, I was using the OP of this thread, kevvvinc, as an example. He's not the only one either. And aren't you the guy who has waited close to 2 months for the dealer to replace his CVT?
Also, in comparison, there is hardly anyway I can break my manual transmission in the snow. I also had an automatic Subaru Impreza with 225,000 miles that saw heavy duty snow in a mountain climate. It never once presented a problem.
Again, I'm not saying all CVTs are invariably junk. I'm merely saying CVTs in general have presented more problems than other transmission offerings. Go look at the articles I linked a few posts back. Those are known problems from three different manufacturers.
It's only logical to have reservations about the reliability of these CVTs when they are having problems and many of them aren't even in high mileage like 200,000 miles. It can only get worse at higher mileage.
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tejus wrote:and for the guy using my car as evidence for cvt reliability... I'm fully aware I broke my cvt being an idiot stuck in snow. I cannot slam the reliability of the cvt it was undoubtedly my fault
Do you mind sharing what you did?

The aaa guy that came to get me unstuck when I got stuck with my 2011 SLS sport said that I probably would have torn up the drivetrain if I would have kept trying to get out. I hope I haven't done any permanent damage as I was really conscious about how much driveline stress I was applying.
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KuroNekko wrote:I'm merely saying CVTs in general have presented more problems than other transmission offerings. Go look at the articles I linked a few posts back. Those are known problems from three different manufacturers.
It's only logical to have reservations about the reliability of these CVTs when they are having problems and many of them aren't even in high mileage like 200,000 miles. It can only get worse at higher mileage.
I'm right here with KuroNekko on this. And it's simply inevitable as newer technology always has some design flaws that only arise from field use. Five years from now, this may not be an issue at all, but right now it's something to be a bit cautious about, either when purchasing a car, or even driving your current one with a cvt.
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tejus wrote:my car Was delivered to me yesterday and is running perfectly now. must have had an issue with the computer causing the pump to break. glad to finally have it back
Glad to hear they got it working correctly again. 8-) Here's to making it to the end of the 100k warranty without another peep.
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SamirD wrote:
KuroNekko wrote:I'm merely saying CVTs in general have presented more problems than other transmission offerings. Go look at the articles I linked a few posts back. Those are known problems from three different manufacturers.
It's only logical to have reservations about the reliability of these CVTs when they are having problems and many of them aren't even in high mileage like 200,000 miles. It can only get worse at higher mileage.
I'm right here with KuroNekko on this. And it's simply inevitable as newer technology always has some design flaws that only arise from field use. Five years from now, this may not be an issue at all, but right now it's something to be a bit cautious about, either when purchasing a car, or even driving your current one with a cvt.
Seeing how "traditional" automatics continue to have problems today, I'm not hopeful
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bootymac wrote:Seeing how "traditional" automatics continue to have problems today, I'm not hopeful
But most of the time these are due to bad manufacturing or improper application (like overloading). There's nothing inheritly 'wrong' with traditional autos like there may be on current cvt designs.
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Tejus, great to hear it's back. I've got no idea what you did in the snow, but I wouldn't expect that was the entire cause of the failure. The CVT is probably more of a factor.
bootymac wrote: Seeing how "traditional" automatics continue to have problems today, I'm not hopeful
What new vehicles are suffering auto trans failures/ driving issues like we're seeing with the Kizashi?
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murcod wrote:
bootymac wrote: Seeing how "traditional" automatics continue to have problems today, I'm not hopeful
What new vehicles are suffering auto trans failures/ driving issues like we're seeing with the Kizashi?
http://www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress/transmission/
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bootymac wrote:
murcod wrote:
bootymac wrote: Seeing how "traditional" automatics continue to have problems today, I'm not hopeful
What new vehicles are suffering auto trans failures/ driving issues like we're seeing with the Kizashi?
http://www.lemonlaw.com/wordpress/transmission/
:lol: That's an attorney trying to get hits from Google and drum up business!
....or feel free to fill out our Get Rid of Your Lemon form. We will be glad to review the situation and determine if and how we can help free of charge.
There's little evidence to back up what they're saying and each example is worded almost the same. The Focus is also dual clutch auto. The Cherokee example is just plain confusing:
The Jeep Grand Cherokee transmission problem is strikingly similar to the issues we are seeing with the Ford Focus and Fiesta vehicles. In an effort to meet EPA standards, Chrysler modified the transmission, changing a standard transmission into a manual unit.
????

I'm surprised Kizashi's aren't in there with CVT horror stories. Plenty of potential business there. ;)

PS: Here's some info on the Jeep http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/27/2014 ... n-problem/
It appears the center of the issue is software, not hardware – the program that controls how the engine communicates with both the ZF nine-speed transmission built by Chrysler in Kokomo, IN, and the unique disconnecting driveshaft engineered by American Axle & Manufacturing. Getting the driveline to run just like the company wants in every situation is what has led to three delays already this year, and a fourth delay is certain to come when the vehicles aren't delivered as promised at the end of the third quarter, which is Monday
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:?

I'm simply pointing out that automatic transmissions still have their issues today. Nothing is completely reliable

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... hina-japan

http://m.motortrend.com/wot/1312_transm ... _1500.html

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01 ... o-persist/
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